LESSON #4: 18 Ways to Make Money Online
Thus far, I’ve given my definition of what an online business is, and I’ve given you what I feel are a few prerequisites to becoming a successful online business owner.
So now let’s get more detailed as we drill down closer to what you’ll actually be doing. A lot of people say they want to make money on the internet, but they really have no idea what that looks like in real life.
One of the problems is that there are literally thousands of ways to make money on the internet…
(Watch this video…)
Main points:
Some ways to make money online include (see video for details):
Action steps:
Your action step today is optional. And it’s simple:
1) look around and see how big the picture is, and how numerous the opportunities are.
If you want to look around and see what else is out there, now is the time… NOT when we’re on lesson #55 and you’re in the middle of following my online business blueprint. Because once we get started, I want you to commit to following through and finishing it, because if you don’t finish it you won’t succeed with it.
Now IF you do go out and research some of the opportunities I’ve just mentioned, remember what I said in Lesson #3… don’t buy stuff unless you know what you’re doing!
I know this goes against the grain of what most marketers would do in my situation. I should be reeling you in and hooking you on my own idea. But I don’t want to do that. I want you to understand the scope of opportunity out there, and then choose to follow my lessons because you WANT to. Not just because you feel like its your only option. And if you’re confident in your decision to follow my blueprint, you’ll be much more focused, and you’ll be more likely to stay the course.
As always, you are welcome to post your questions and comments below.
Have a great day!



Thank you for giving this great 18 ways how to get the money. I think here affiliate marketing and arbitrage marketing is very useful in this internet marketing.
Hi Steaphen,
If you look at Erics Marketing Tips and Business Opportunities on the right hand side of his website…you’ll also get a lot more ideas…some really good archived stuff!
We Give You 120 Individual Turnkey Websites With Your Paypal ID On Each
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You are absolutely right Gary. You can trust anything Eric recommends. If you haven’t grabbed the free Stompernet course yet, I highly recommend it…top notch information there. http://sites.google.com/site/nitroaffiliates/
Gary, have you done well with this business yourself? How long have you been doing it yourself?
Thanks for the paid weblog list, Eric. I’m interested in it from the advertiser side but it’s a great list anyway.
Why do you prefer Rentacoder over all the other freelance code websites?
Thanks btw for summarizing the video in text. Personally I much prefer text to audio or even video.
Thanks Alec (I used to think your nickname was La Vie until I checked out your site LOL… nice dance pics and other stuff BTW, you’re a true artist)…
The reason I like Rentacoder is twofold. First, it’s what I’ve become comfortable with, and I’ve had good success with it. Second, they have a very good escrow system, and a very helpful ebay-style feedback system.
Hi Eric
It’s very interesting to go through your article which are really helpful in making a great success in make money Online.
Thank you very much for sharing your stuff here and I’m very happy to see posts like this.
Internet wealth generation
i need help , i need finance , plz help me for internet working
Hi Eric -
What a great blog! Just found out about it from Joel Comm’s blog/site.
You are so right about researching before spending money. There have been countless times that I was about to buy into some business that had me “sold”, but once I researched the business through a Google or Yahoo search, found that the business was a scam or worthless.
I suggest starting a business on a subject that you are passionate about from the beginning. Something that you enjoy talking about, writing about and helping others with.
You can then pretty easily learn how to construct a website about it (if you don’t already know how), and you’re on your way!
Knowing the subject matter of your business is most of the battle!
Thanks Bob..sounds like good advice!
Hey Eric I was watching video lesson#4. It stopped at number 16. Could not get it to play anymore. Someone needs to look into this.
Thanks
Sandy
Sorry about that. It is possible that your internet connection had a momentary inturruption. The other possibility is that your computer was low on memory. I suggest try closing all programs, and then try again.
Hi Erik,
Just one word-”wonderful”!
Thanks,
Andy
Hi! Eric,
I am still in process of starting my on-line business.
Your Lessons are great help and support for me to understand the business first and than start.
One thing more, dont you people like Asains as I have seen no comments from a person belong from Asia like me.
Any way you are doing great job.
Regards/ Iftekhar Hussain
Of course I like Asians! LOL… but I wish I had more. Look at the map on this post, you will see some Asians on the map…
http://www.ericstips.com/tips/aweber/
Hey Eric!
Carly here. I just want to say that I think what you are doing is amazing. Totally inspirational and I personally will be following all the way and learning from you.
Being on the show taught me a lot, it really did. But nothing beats step-by-step action to follow through with.
All people really need on the internet is a mentor. Someone to guide them. And very few do this without an ulterior motive.
You have shown yourself to be an amazing leader with helping your loyal fans and I’m proud of you!!
Please say hi to Melissa, Kaitlyn and Hannah for me. They must be very proud of you.
Big hugs
Carly x
hey Carly:) It’s Nico.. I started a support community for Erics lessons, maybe you would like to be a moderater, or just interact there if you will be following Eric’s lessons. I hope all is going well with your son’s recovery! Missyaluv!
hey Carly, good to hear from you! I will say hi to them
Hi Eric,
Somehow I came accross your blog and I must say I’m very happy that I did… I think I fit perfectly into the catagory of info overload to the point of being so confused as to NOT knowing where or how to start. So your 4 lessons to date are terrific and the two options I identified as what I would market on the internet being ‘Info/digital products’ and ‘affiliate marketing’ - they appear to be the most cost effective for me also.
A question I have for you is: Will you be stepping us newbie’s through website setup’s within the 120 lessons you have?
Really good work!!
Yes I will be showing how to set up a website. Good to have you on board!
Thanks for the lesson but my Adobe Reader is still not working.
have you tried reinstalling Ronnie?
the lessons are in adobe?
Hi Eric and everyone, Liz here a newbie but im am learning, isnt he a great teacher.
Hi Eric
Great info so far. I love your approach with this of being totally honest it is very refreshing to see keep up the good work I’m looking forward to all 120 lessons.
thanks
ronald
the list of jobs is what is keeping me around i have not seen that before online, im here for all 120, committed and determined
learning is a win win anyway you put it, my opinion
My words exactly! Best of luck to you!
Great article. I really learnt alot. Very informative keep up the good Work
nice to have the picture sketched,it helps to open minds..and in the subject of getting burned,hope youll talk about that,its important to learn by others learnings to build earning,includes mitigating against the worst.so ihope youll refer to it.
Thanks Eric, you’re providing very good information at lesson 4 already, cannot wait seeing all 120 lessons.
Stef
http://stefgrandgi.com
Follow up your lessons give us more confidence on committing this Online businesses. We are sure that you will teach us on the backend setup on our sides. Sometimes we are unsure whether our setting up it’s OK or not. Normally we try to do it as per instructions, but the systems doesn’t works. Sometimes it’s diffiocult to explain as there might be certain things that we don’t understand.
Is there any best investment Online business that you think we could join to make a passive incomes today ?
Thanks,
Regards Mohd
No, not unless you already have the experience necessary, or an existing business. There are some programs I could join and make money within 24 hours by promoting it to my existing subscribers or by setting up a quick PPC campaign. But for someone who is new to the business, you need to learn more first and build the foundation of your business, otherwise you would most likely end up losing money. There are always exceptions, but I’ve seen it happen so many times…
Your apporach is very creative and innovative. “We stand on the shoulder of giants” as they say. You are definitely lending a hand to help us up.
New things are so hard to promote. Do some of your future lessons show how to promote New Products created by your devoted readers?
Sunshine to all.
I agree with Eric…build the foundation first with a good education and understanding. Just read some of the posts here and you will see how easy it is to lose money before you know what your doing.Best of luck to y

thanks a lot for your usefull tips
Thanks Eric.
I thought I was already doing internet business, but your list made me realize that doing website development and search engine optimization is actually a work-at-home job. Maybe I’ll help other folks here with web building, but with your support I can be much better with solid marketing expertise for all my clients. - Rick
You’re one step ahead
Wait until you see lesson #6!
This is agreat tip.Thanks Eric
Lot of people are attracted by the many ways of making money in Internet, and jump from one to another. I remember once I attended an Internet training boot camp, whenever a Guru say this program will make money, many flock to it and sign, some ended up signing few programs and started non. In the seminar, one of the Guru stated very clearly, start one first and see that it make money in autopilot and move to the next. The problem with many is they did not allow the seed to germinated and grow, leave it and grab the next big deal. The same guru also said, the next big project will kill you off. So stay focus.
Hi Eric, I really appreciate your commitment here, but question your statement regarding MLM. Whilst I’m not involved with a ’strictly’ MLM busines myself, I feel that it gets an unnecessary bad press.
After all, EVERY business on the planet uses the MLM concept. ie; word-of-mouth.
The JVers out there are the worst offenders. They ABSOLUTELY depend on the MLM concept. EXCEPT without the renumeration package. In other words, they pay on just one level at a time, sometimes TWO. There are no recurring affiliate commissions once you’ve ‘passed the ball’ on as it were.
It’s the same with ‘off-line’ business’ who LOVE you to recommend a friend, maybe pay an introductory incentive, then it’s ‘goodbye’ Josephine.
MLM is at least ‘honest’ in the fact that it rewards those who refer the products down ’several’ levels, making the initial commitment ‘worthy’.
Looking forward to more gems.
Pete.
Hi Eric
Great information about the ways we can earn income. I do believe that we have to take action to begin our journey. Guess we should be concentrating to start off with one or two first.
Thanks!
Edward Han
http://www.1502.us
Wondrous and Informative Lessons, from a person
who have done his `due diligence`! People talk about `due diligence`! but fail to do it. That is, I think, because they just don’t know what to do.
Eric, I have been a beginner on the internet now for about 18 months. I bought your AVB no. 1, and now no. 2.I have always been on your list in the 18 months odd. This is quite a breath of fresh air, you giving us these very valuable insights (lessons), from a marketing point of view. Please keep it up. THANK YOU.
Amazing Inspirational Ideas! I’m agreed with you that we need to “Focus” on building up one business before it growing.
I prefer info product and affiliate marketing. It’s easiest to set up and required minimal cost. Unlimited income potential!
To your success
Bryan Hee
Work from Home Secrets Report
http://workfromhomereport.pinurl.com
you will be happy when you see lesson #7 (hint hint)…
Great sincere sharing! You’re the first Guru that don’t brag your own product/services by saying” My ways is not the only way!”!
Thanks
Anna
Quickest & Easiest Way For You To Build Your Own Website For FREE!
http://webbuildesoftware.pinurl.com
Fantastic videos! I’m inpatience looking forward your all 120 videos!
Anna
Generate Huge Passive income up to $4,500++
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Eric this is well put together but if there are 120 lessons we will not complete this for the next 4 months… right?
Im waiting for you to start and Im going to follow you to the tee… and use myself as a case study. Ive got a video camera so I’ll be taking them each day as I go along.
That’s right, it will take about 4-5 months. But that’s ok, because it took me several years to learn it. Also, the action steps will be much more involved later on.
Yeah..4 or 5 months sounds a lot better than 4 or 5 years! Thanks again Eric
Hi Erics,
Thank you so much. You reviews about many ways of online business! Surprised me. Wow! So lots. Never ever before exposed by someone on the internet.
Now I know a little bit about the whole structure of the internet business.
I’ve only acquired 3 out of so many.But still under learning process. I hope your lessons could bring everybody to the final and have a great success.
You know millions of people are surfing the internet, but how many you could imagine able to trade on the internet? My prediction is 1 out of 20,000.
So your idea is great. Able to invite people love to trade on the internet. Many people in some countries didn’t know about this idea.
They are busy with their everyday’s job and some are computer illiteracy. Thank you.
Great Information. The information you are putting here online for all of us who want to make money online is great. I am trying the Affiliate Marketing, yet I have come across all of the other methods you talk about, just from my research. You spelled it all out in an honest and helpful way. I know it probably won’t help much, because I don’t get much traffic to my blog yet, but if it okay with you I am going to add your site to my blogroll on my site. Thanks so much for all the information. I can’t wait till the next videos. You are also a great speaker, and you make everything clear, and understandable.
Many Thanks !!
Teresa Caldwell
I have fruition in you in becoming rich.
Hi Eric,
Nice list which sums up the available options. It’s always nice to learn from someone as experienced as yourself. The internet is still growing and has a lot of potential to help people reduce dependence on a job.
I look forward to more of your tips.
Thanks.
Hi Eric,
One of your ways of making money on the internet which I have already embraced is info/digital products - ebooks. But I am having a great problem as a newbie knowing how to bring quality traffic, etc to my ebooks website since the traffic I bought failed to produce anything. I hope to be all ears when you start teaching that aspect, that is administering and managing ebooks websites. Can anyone help b/4 then? I would like to know when you will start teaching this.
Keeping my fingers crossed.
Mike
http://www.ebooks4amazingsuccess.com
e-mail ebooks4success@yahoo.com
I will be doing 15-20 lessons all about traffic. But those won’t start until about lesson #63 or so. If you’re looking for information to buy before then, you could check out Web Traffic Machines . If you’re not sure if you’ll use the software, just do the $37 trial, and you’ll get a bunch of ebooks and videos that you can keep even if you cancel the membership.
Hi There
Eric, I like your approach and “bed-side” manner. Here’s a question about what you would might classify “sample fulfillment” as I am seeing an increased product push for the “how-to’s”. Do you view these as AFFILIATE programs or legitimate stand alone service businesses? (Of course there is a e-product attached to every ad and an on-going live advisor service to inflate the value). I would value your assessment of these types of on-line OP’s. I look forward to your next lesson.
Can you give me an example of what you’re talking about?
Eric,
Thanks for the “free will” offerings. I do know that MLM is legit if workable marketing is taught. Usually hype and misdirection is practiced. Really looking forward to following this through.
Hi Eric,
It is a great list.
One thing i want to mention here is,even Guru’s like you are not recommending Network Marketing.Network marketing is a legal and legitimate model to gain financial freedom.There are tons of advantages.You can attract qualified prospects online instead of bugging your family like in the olden days.
Anyway,thanks for sharing the ideas.
Best Wishes,
Kannan Viswagandhi
http://www.growing-self.blogspot.com
Eric,
You have my attention.
Very helpful lesson. I liked the way you explained these options as well as the potential earnings you’ve realised from some of them.
It actually validates the claims of some marketers …(although those I didn’t believe I had nothing to so with!) I know the list isn’t exaustive, but want to know if you class Master Resell Rights products under digital/ebook products. Or if you have an opinion on MRR products.
thanks.
Resale Rights/MRR products could be classified as a business opportunity, or they could be classified simply as products for resale. I have made a lot of money with RR/MRR products, and have found them to often have a good ROI. But the thing to keep in mind is my qualifier. Don’t buy stuff **unless you know what you’re doing**. If you know what you’re doing, then you can make good purchases of RR/MRR, and if you know what you’re doing then you’ll know how to turn around and sell it for a profit (and you already have a list or market in mind for it).
great advice for any one interested in an online business
Hi Eric,
I’ve had some success at MLM in the past while witnessing a whole bunch of people lose a lot of money and their will to go on. I agree with you - Eric - in gently warning against MLM. I think there are people who are geared to being successful MLMers and there are others who are not. Then there is the whole matter of MLM companies going the way of the Dodo bird just about the time you finally start seeing some profits and all the rest of it. So here - to sum it up is my advice on MLM for what it’s worth. (If you have the desire to work the very hardest that you can possibly work for the least amount of security you can possibly receive than MLM might be right for you.) And here’s a side note - your prospect will see first hand what you do to try and recruit them and that’s when they start asking themselves if they really want to do that too! Enough said.
I`am enjoying the tips.You are leading The Three Blind Mice to the Cheese,great tips Eric.
Eric, this is a wonderful post. I personally have been cheated of lots of money I have spent online. This is the first video that I watched and was so informative that I went back to unread mails in my inbox and read the previous 3. I am an indian and would just like to say one word for all this-AMAZING EFFORT
yeah Eric, thanks for list of business opportunities and don’t buy stuffs!!
I did buy many stuffs but most of them I
don’t need and yes I got distracted so I
am making big money yet…
anyway your tips are legitmate.
and God bless…
Eric, this info is great. Judging from the first four lessons this is exactly what I need to get me out of this quagmire. You said it…analysis paralysis. Didn’t know where to begin. Thank you so much. I look forward to all the lsessons. Susan
All this lesson is amazing, but the most important thing for me is your honesty to show the good and the bag side of each one.
thanks
Hi, Eric, all is o.k. for someone that have a perfect English, but I nedd help, because is not so much that I catch for my short English, so ¿is it possible send me information in Spanish?. Thanks
I am not able to send it in Spanish, but here are some free translation tools which might help:
http://www.google.com/language_tools?hl=es
http://babelfish.yahoo.com/
Eric, thanks for the great info. You really set yourself apart from everyone else. I’m looking forward to your next lesson.
I receive emails from at least a dozen internet marketers every day but there are only 3 that I look forward to hearing from and you are one of them.
With this new series of Tips, you’ve just jumped to the TOP of my list!
I agree…best of luck to you!
Thanks a lot for your opinion. I am looking forward to your next lesson.
Wish I’d seen a video like this a year ago! It cuts through all the confusion. Thanks so much.
Cool! I have never heard #18, paid blogger. I’m definitely going to check that out.
Thanks!
Don
Stand Tall And Lead
Erik, automatic translators are horrible. They change the sense of the words and don’t understand expressions. So I wouldn’t recommend that for Blanca or anybody.
I am taking some notes to share them in Spanish with my friends telling them about your blog -of course- that is not the same as watching your video and hearing you but it could help to all this people who doesn’t understand English.
I like your blog better day after day.
Eric:
I did not rec.the 5 ebooks as noted when I signed up. Please advise. By the way,I’m hooked on the tips. I’m trying to absorbe every word.Thanks.
Warren
Again Eric,
Sincere and to the point. I think that most people do not realize how much work is involved in creating and maintaining an online Internet business.
Great information at one place. Thanks.
I want to know what is product you sell on ebay
Eric, I agree with you about making money online.I’ve read a lot of online books and internet marketing books.They said the same thing that you have mentioned above.Your info make me more knowledgable in online business.
Visit our http://www.easyartscraftstips.com to start your own easy arts and crafts business online now. By using Eric’s tips, it is not impossible to have another millionaire in online business.
Hi Eric!
You didn’t fake it. Those are all that is there for businesses. Thanks
I just have one question. You told about MLM “if you are not in, you don’t need to”.
I’m not defending any mlm, i just want to have more indepth about that industry cause they’re talking too much about it.
Thanks.
Braveheart
THX so much that u could share the precious opinions with me!!! ^_^
its so nice.can i put this vidio in my blog? can i get any problem from adsense?.i dont know any thing.plz see my blog and suggest me to improve it.i am handicaped that to poor financially.at present i am not in a position to invest any thing.my all fingers post burns contracthers cos i met with fire accident in the year of 2005.so please help me.i want to make adsense as my full time cos i am running internet cafe for my lively hood.i was the journalist.
thanq somuch.i am forwarding mail also to you
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This is such great stuff, Eric! Your information is informative and inspiring.
I couldn’t agree more about staying focused. With so many different opportunities available, it’s easy to become distracted and never finish any of the projects that you’ve already started.
Information overload truly disrupts your momentum and drains your action taking energy.
Thanks,
Melina
http://www.seminarswagbag.com
Dear Eric
Is there any reason behind listing the various
ways in the order above For instance why have you listed ebay as number one Thanks
great tips.. tq
Thinks Eric
I dont know what i write about you?
Millat
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u r quite a genuine guy, we need guys like u in the net where u get drowned by the “sea of information” and “swept by the tide of confusion” once more , thx
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Thanks Eric, for the common sense of your information. You are absolutely right, there’s so much out there and it all comes with creating a sense of urgency for buying it. I’m glad to have gone through this lesson and for the information you have provided.
thanks very much for your generosity.
It’s good advice for people, especially people who are starting out online. “Don’t buy stuff because you don’t need them.” I wish I have seen this lesson years ago.
I’m looking forward for the next lesson.
JTYS
Hi, Eric! I got the info about your existence through a lady I recently met at the new church I joined in Tavares, FL. I was born in a marketing/advertising home in Buenos Aires, Argentina. My parents met at the South American branch of McCann Erickson, They were working together so I grew up listening about this but the Internet didn’t exist for those times. Nowadays I am absolutely convinced that I have the right profile to develop an Internet Business. Even when I have to be patient because I am listening to things I already know, I am absolutely convinced that this lesson and how you could give a format to all this info is cool! I am good at helping people with their start ups plus I was a leadership coach for many years. I am deeply convinced that I am going to find my niche through these lessons. Btw, I made the decision to do it. So far, I still couldn’t find any fake concept in your speech… and that’s awesome. Think that I am probably 20 years older than you. Since I am sort of receiving your knowledge about these issues, I wonder if I can return with the knowledge I have to you. None of us is perfect so exchanging is the fair thing to do here. Btw, do you offer private consulting? You can contact me privately if you want just emailing me at the email address you have. I also have a profile on Linked In if you want to check it out. Just let me now if you want it. Warm regards, Laura
P/S.: MLMs are not legal scam but they are not exactly a great biz for anybody else but themselves… and I am talking because unfortunately I had a short experience and I decided to say NO to them
Hi Eric,
Thanks for the info. In response to some of the MLM comments made here by other visitors I agree that you should proceed with caution, perform due diligence and determine if the particular type of ‘MLM’ model is for you.
I have never been an MLM guy….and I actually couldn’t stand any of them for a long time. Most are shameless self-promoters but I have found a couple to be legitimate businesses operated by honest, humble people of faith. One in particular I decided to join and shortly after began making great money. In about 3 weeks I had made 3x’s my initial investment…but it wasn’t as “automated” as people think and are many times led to believe.
In my opinion, what has caused the term ‘MLM’ to carry a bad name is the self-promoters themselves with over hyped do nothing and get rich quick claims that follow. The business I work for a few hours a week is technically not MLM, because you break-away after 2 sales and keep all earnings beyond.
I am fascinated by business modeling and have studied all aspects of them professionally for 13+ years. I have found that once you strip away all the fluff and clutter surrounding any business there is an MLM component within a large majority and particularly so with internet based businesses.
I think keeping an open mind is crucial when examining a business model. Prejudging a biz opportunity can provide likewise results as doing the same in our personal lives.
Most importantly, when evaluating an opportunity, be sure to check your emotions at the door. Making a decision fueled by emotion is the same as making one out of fear. Praying about it also helps:)
Keep up the great work!
Thank you Eric. I am learning a lot from your lessones.
Many thanks for the bunch of suggestions and Trading sounds good to me but I don’t know how to start?
Great posts. I have my own list of ways to make money and I thought it was pretty good until I saw yours. Thanks for the insight.
Your program and presentation is excellent. Very well paced. I have been an instructor and writer in the aviation industry.
My wife and I were in MLM for a few years. We enjoyed it but eventually hit burnout.
You are very right regarding selling products on the internet. We have a gift business and it is limiting.
It is time to expand and move into the realm of passive income.
Enjoying your program.
Max
Hi Eric and every one, before I joined your tips Eric I purchased three online products. Has any one heard of them and do you know much about them. Eric so far I have enjoyed your tips and lookforward to your next lesson.
Thank you
Ron
I guess it would help if I told you which ones I have. Money montage, my product center, power cash secrets.
Ron
Hi Eric,
No idea how did I discover this Blog.
I am an eBay´s employee. So I would not recommend eBay right now to start a business. Things have changed and unfortunately most of the stuff out there in Internet is incomplete or very old. I personally worked in the anti-scam department and could tell you that 99% of those e-books that reveals “secrets to make millions on eBay” or “how to become a Powerseller in three months” are just rubish.
eBay today is not the same than 10 years ago. (e.g.: info products delivered on line are forbidden and feedback system has been changed).
So if you would allow me I would remove eBay form that list for newbies. Of course, if you have an strong company that could afford the high fees go ahead, but even there is a tendence from big companies to move slowly their businesses to their own online presence. The smartest guys there are just using eBay as advertising plattform to get buyers to their own territories).
I will be here around listening the lessons, because I must confess I bought a lot of stuff in order to get free from my job, but nothing worked properly. I am planing to start my online business. but I need to put my ideas correctly.
Thanks for the info
This is good stuff, however, if I am wanting to choose an online business and get it set up tonight (my goal) what would one suggest? I have done all of the classes and studies and spent all the money. what affiliate business do you recommend until i can create my own?
Hi Eric, your lessons are very interesting, if not a little slow for me, is there anyway that I can jump forward on the lesson list?
Thanks
Thank you for starting from the beginning. It helps everyone. Those that know it get a refresher and the rest get to learn step by step.
pls send me how to work.and earn money
Hi Eric,
Just finished listening your show. Very informative and entertaining. Thanks for outlining the various methods of making money on the internet. I’ve nothing to complain about except the TradingPro System link. Whenever it senses you closing its window the pop-up keep emerging insisting you to sign up for the opt-in list. It’s kind of irritating. I guess pop-under is better than pop-up. Just my opinion.
Jimi
Thank you for this great lesson as always, very refreshing, encouraging, honest… I’ll be eagerly waiting for the next lessons. God bless,
JA
Eric, you’ve done it again. Your transparency is what keeps all of us coming back for more.
This post is useful for Beginners that are searching the first way that drives to their first online income.
You have also added good points like Paid Blogger, Domainer and Trading.
You start from the bases going up to the most captivating methods, also interesting for good marketers.
Thank you very much for your contents, always interesting.
Goodbye,
Alessandro
Eric - I tried to access the eBay guide for download, went through the sign-up page and process and then could not tell how to get access to the download. For now, I don’t want the other 79 books (Stop buying things!). How do I download the one guide?
You can click at the bottom of that offer to say No to the 79 ebooks. Then you will enter the meber area, and in the member area there is a link to the download page on the navigation links at the top.
Hi eric i am very impressed with your lessons i have spent quite a lot of money buying products that i cannot use i linked with several affiliate sites got my free website not sure how menny seems they are all friends passing my email around.I on the other hand am left without a clue what to do with it not sure if i found you or you found me but i am listening i have never owned a website never set up eletronic response email how to set up a website i am a perverbial newbie.You are the first person to tell me to stop buying thank you for your opinion i do belive you have integrity am looking forward to the next lessons keep up the good work us newbies are out there looking for you even we do not know it till we find you….BLESS
Thanks Eric, I am starting to feel A little more at ease about the whole process and thanks for your honesty, James
Hi Eric, After the 4th lesson, I realize how important your lessons are to me.I am really surprised by the fact that I am very familiar with all the opportunities you have mentioned barring one or two, tried my hand at every one of those,(played safe without burning my fingers), but I simply did not succeed in making a single penny, obviously because of the lack of knowledge to go in the right direction.. Now I feel confident that I will be able to do SOMETHING once this course is over. Thanks for the wonderful tips. Regards,Rema.
hey eric…thanx for all the tips…keep them coming…I know that the real one I need is in there…can’t wait!!!
Hi Eric,
This is the first lesson I’ve had to listen to twice. There was just so much information that I couldn’t even begin to get it the first time.
Please consider that a compliment, because I would not take 23 minutes and 53 seconds TWICE if the material wasn’t interesting.
Thanks,
Jack
Well once again you have a direct and level headed approach. My issue is that with no job, income or Internet skills, I need to make money now. I want to say that I have been able to glean from you and others teachings the very basics. Now what? I have established an “autopilot” type of website, but the company I chose to work through has blocked my access to the site until I do some freelance work for their other customers. While I do not mind doing the work, it is structured so that I could “starve to death” before actually having the site at my disposal. I know that to promote the niche is important. Could you talk about how to acquire some E-mail lists, or the “pay per click” option?
Thank you for this great lesson thanks for all the tips
can’t wait!!!
Thanks Eric for some great information. I guess I’m on my way with your helpful lessons. You are a blessing. thanks dp
eric, i like what you say & the way you say it. I run a website http://www.concretebasics.org; which is a technical civil engineering website…could you suggest the adsense strategy & affiliates tie ups that i should go for…..its a free website having good technical contents…how do i make it a revenue generating site?
Right now the site looks like one big advertisement. The key to making money with adsense is having good content on your site, which will bring traffic, and then having good placement of the ads.
So you need to put more emphasis on the content, and think about it more from the viewpoint of a potential visitor. If you were searching for info about concrete, what kind of site would you want to land on.
Make it a more enjoyable user experience, and they will be more likely to stick around and click more ads.
thanks eric for your suggestion,
are readymade adsense templates available having content relevant to my site (concrete, construction, construction machinery etc)?
thanks
You could probably find a ready made template, but I wouldn’t necessarily recommend going that route. Adsense templates are great, if you’re building a bunch of sites, but I’m not sure that you want your “main” site to be primarily an adsense site. You need to find the focus of your business, figure out how to build a list, etc. My best advice would be to keep following these lessons one step at a time
Hello Eric
i just want to say thanks for all of this, i want to start an online business,but didn’t know where and how to start, right know I’m doing a little bit of MLM (not online) but I’ve always feel that i should do something online and yes I’ve search a lot and like everyone has said i have info overload and finding your site was the best because this is exactly what I needed, my only concern is this:
I am in Mexico and i do not know if all this IM business will work with us Mexicans…because it looks like all we do here in Mexico is to get in youtube,face book and mercadolibre(this is like ebay) and i really like the info product idea and membership site idea.. what do you think?
best regards
I think info products and membership sites are both good ideas
You can actually combine the two, as you will see in lesson #32.
Eric, I have a complimentary service that would go along with your trading pro product.
I provide the service, you provide the marketing?
I am not taking on any new jv’s currently, but feel free to submit it to my helpdesk and I can take a look at it.
I have to say I get distracted with everything out there way too easily! When the night started I was on one path and decided to do more research. I came across one of your reviews of the product in the process. Now, here I am indulged in your courses.
I believe I really need structure with this venture - I hope your courses help!
You are possibly the ONLY marketer I have ever come across who has NOT tried to sell me something under the guise of “helping” me. Good man, Eric. Very good man.
There are many money making click bank products. According to them(some of the product owners) 98% are scam. How to find genuine 2%. Are you using any of them ? If so How much did you spend before earning the cost of the product?
I’ve used several clickbank products, I also sell several products on clickbank. Here’s one that I like a lot: Push button marketer
All I can say is WOW — what a great mentor you are. Who could ask for any more information than what you so willingly are giving to us? Your words and wisdom certainly are inspiring to me and for that I thank you very much
Hey Eric,
It keeps getting better each day!
The info is so great that I feel bless.
Keep up the good work!
HI ERIC,
YOU ARE RIGHT, I NEED TO CONCENTRATE ON LEARNING FIRST, I RECEIVED EVERYDAY MANY SHINING THINGS, A GOOD THING MY CREDIT CARD IS INACTIVE NOW!
THANKS, RUDOLF
thnx, a lot of good info
eric i really think your a good dude im new and green as a bean but I know ill never stop til i get it you give me insperation TO CONTINUE WHEN MY TANK IS DRY IM ATTEMPING THE HOME CASH COURSE BUT UN KNOWING I NEEDED THE 99.99 FOR THE TRAFFIC I FEEL REALLY MESSED ME UP BUT IM HOLDING MY HEAD UP AND I KNOW I WILL SUCCEED IM GETTING IT THANKS TO PEOPLE LIKE YOU THANKS MAN
Okay! I want to make money with info products/digital products and affiliate marketing. Can’t wait for the next lesson.
Eric -I’d also like to try making money blog writing.
Very helpful and informative. I look forward to all your lessons.
Chuck
http://www.plr-mart.com/store
Eric, I have about 40 hours each week to put into your “orientation” re the internet.I could use about 4 of these lessons each day? Can you send me 4 lessons each day?
At the moment, I am still ceating the lessons. When they are all completed, I will be selling them in a home study course so people like you can go through them at your own pace. But in the mean time, I’m just releasing them one at a time here on my site.
Eric,I hope you will send me 4 lessons each day instead of just one?
Also I need help in down loading your book on ebay. Every time I try to download the book a page pops up that saysyou already have my email in your databaseand itstops me cold . what do I do? to get the boo?k downloaded?
If your email is in the database, then you can login to download the ebook. Please submit a helpdesk ticket if you have trouble logging in. Otherwise, feel free to simply signup again using a different email address. Thanks
Hi Eric,
Its wonderful hearing your tips.
Actually the reason why i got into your site, is that i’m looking for a possible client, who would trust to outsource their projects on our company. I’m connected to a data services company in the Philippines. I hope you can help me on it.
With Best regards,
Rhiza
I would recommend looking for clients by bidding on projects at freelancer sites such as:
Rentacoder
Odesk.com
Elance.com
You say dont buy stuff What about traffic machine ?
My caveat is - don’t buy stuff *unless you know what you’re doing and why you’re buying it*.
In other words, don’t keep buying stuff based on hype or blind hope.
But throughout the business building process, you will make strategic purchases.
For example, if you have a website, and it’s monetized properly… and you specifically want some tools to help drive more traffic to your website; then the traffic machines could be a good investment.
I’ve been scamed before so it’s hard for me to trust any body. They say free at the start of the ad and ask for a credit card at the end of it. I’m game for another shot.
Eric
Trying to watch the 4th video but it stops every time in the same spot (the adsense section and will not restart. Help please
So far these are great
Pleae try clearing your cache, and close all other programs, and try again. If that doesn’t work, make sure you have the latest flash player installed for your browser. And also you could try a different browser, like Firefox. Thanks
In my heart I know I can make a decent living with the Internet. I keep trying eBay and Bonanzle. I did not download the eBay book yet; however I signed up to get it. I wish I could have afforded the full library, but I do not have it. Being broke is the pits!!!
I find selling stuff much more enjoyable than selling information, especially money-making projects. I do not want to ultimately end up being responsible for further promoting those money-making scams. I know that the products I sell on eBay and Bonanzle (when they actually sell) are good products. My feedback shows me that people are really pleased and that’s the best part of selling. I am so looking forward to learning things that will help my e-commerce business flourish. I would be tickled with $5K a month, so anything more would be gravy — rich gravy!
Eric –
I was able to download the eBay Cash ebook and the 2nd bonus book; however I received the following message when I tried to download the 1st bonus (12 little-known niches):
Can you possibly send me a better link. I believe you have two email addresses for me now — either one should work. The yahoo one is my usual one.
I just looked at it and apparently that particular unadvertised bonus is no longer available. Sorry about that. I have removed it from the site, and also I found a few other out-dated links while I was at it. So thank you for the heads up!
Very educational videos. Question: have you ever heard of “my online income system”. I am in midst of it and don’t know whether I should pursue further on it??!!
Thank you.
I am not familiar with it. I guess my question for you would be… does it work? IF it’s putting money in you’re pocket, stick with it. If not, maybe it’s time to switch to a better system
Hallo Eric just wated to thank you for your lessons and for your honesty in everything you teach I just confeus about all this things that goes on on the internet every one offering something for a fee. I would like to talk to you about a few thing no one I gat this page http://yourfreewebsitesystem.com/roman89 for free which lead me to you I just wated to ask is it posible to make money with this web page numeber two I open a a ebay account to became a seller I lisen to what you said in your vedeo about ebay it was quite clear. You see I dont have any money to invest in anything I am just looking to see with my time and effort If some how I can generate some kind of income I am willing to learn and do what ever it takes to be a online marketer any advise or suggestion that you can provide me I will allway be thank fall.
Thanks
Fausto
Today’s lesson is motivating me more
Hi Eric,I’m from India and i’d like to ask you one thing.What should be the basis of our choice of product to sell?I mean,being new to the whole IM thing, deciding on the product to sell/promote is also an uphill task with so much to choose from. Could you help me here?
Kudos for the great effort you’re putting in here to help out people.I thought people like you had vanished from the face of this Earth… and most certainly from the U.S.!!! Ha haaa
In lesson #19 I talk about niche selection. Ultimately I think it is best to choose a topic that you care about, and are knowledgable regarding.
Hi Eric,
Many thanks for all the positive advice, for a newbie like me I could not have asked anymore than what you are teaching. I will stick it out and learn as much as there is to know about on line marketing and hopefully make some money as well. It leaves me to thank you once again,
Agnes
I do not have a website and would like some information where I would be able to get one constructed FREE. My income is very,very low and all of it goes mostly for medication. 77years young. Still trying to make it.
Slash378
These lessons will show you how to build a website
Hi, Im just a beginner and just going on to lesson 5. Just to tell you I feel very comfortable with you, your honesty and your program. Ill keep on but many thanks.
Thanks Anne
another great article from the desk of Eric. it is wonderful. you know what with you nobody will listen to our top internet marketers. i have more on this - i provide “online money making ways” at http://www.atomicininternetmoney.com
Great info. I never heard of these business ideas before. Thanks Eric for the good work.
Thanks Eric great info. for beginners. These are definitely a proven way to make money online.
http://www.twitter.com/sam1847
Hi Eric,
Thanks a lot! It clarifies and gives me a better understanding on what the internet business is all about. I can hardly wait what would be the next lesson for me learn from you. God Bless U.
Eric I was halfway through lesson #4 and it quit. Please let me know if anyone else experienced the same thing. Also I did start all over again but it stops at the same placeright at Freelancer.:( Linda
Please check this out:
http://www.ericstips.com/trouble-viewing-flash-videos/
thanks
hey eric,
good job! you releive my so many questions in mind regarding this online job. I just finish lesson #4 now and looking forward for the next lesson.
Hi! Eric…good knowledge sharing and nicely put together..can’t wait for other lessons.
I did not receive Lesson #3, is there any way to get this?
Thanks
Hello Shravani,
The next lesson will soon be completed and will be sent to you soon thereafter. You can also visit EricsTips.com to see the latest lesson updates and revisit earlier lessons:
http://www.ericstips.com/tips/category/lessons/
Here is the direct link to lesson 3:
http://www.ericstips.com/tips/lesson3/
Thanks Eric for your clear info of internet business. I think the affiliate marketing,info products, and Ebay ,would be much suitable for me to start a bsn online, with lower capital.
Thanks again Eric for showing me a clearer way to make money.
hi Eric; i checked out pray way an believe u r a real christian; i hope i am rite. finally someone in this line of work with christian values; thank GOD. i find myself unemployed at age 51, been on the road trucking last 17 yrs; owned my own tk last 4yrs, if i don,t come off road an have a better life style, told i will become diebitic,even thou in good shape for a trucker.think this is so i,ll really learn to trust GOD with my life. really need your help brother in CHRIST. i also pay tithes an offering plus and would like to do more for missionary work an other good ministries. tryed some online programs an been scamed an overwhelhemed; after working 33 yrs; starting to fill anxiety; i no have to trust GOD. very interested in stocks; but never invested b4 an other online bussiness,s. Not much education an don,t type to well; can i do this Eric? thz Roy
Hello Roy,
Yes, we believe you can do all things through Christ who strengthens you!
If you are interested in stocks, we recommend that you check out this link:
http://www.tradingprosystem.com/
Hi Eric,
Thanks for this lesson I gain a lot from following you.
God bless you always!
Thanks
Arlan
Hi Eric, I have complete listened to your lesson and looking forward to hear the nest training session. Thanks a lot.
Hi Eric, more great tips. hopefully I will watch all these videos. I learning a great deal.
Thank you for Eric’s Tips in video format. Can the tips be accessed or obtained strictly in a written format? When limited in broadband usage,such quickly diminishes one’s GB usuage.
Thanks,
Mrs. Dorothy Barron
Hello Dorothy,
Thank you for your question. Currently the tips are only available in the flash video format, followed by Eric’s written summary.
Hi Eric
Just wondering if there may be something wrong with the file for lesson 4 - cannot get past 7 mins 28 seconds no matter what I do - and was really enjoying it!
Please help or possibly re-post the file? Thank you! Leigh
Hello Leigh,
Here is a link that should help you to be able to view the videos properly:
http://www.ericstips.com/trouble-viewing-flash-videos/
Thanks so much Micah - I really appreciate it!
I am listening to lessson #4. I too am a believer and like the fact that you have the PRAY WAY site…. Is there anyway to have access to the lessons than waiting until the next day?
thanks! steve
Thanks! Yes you can see them here:
http://www.ericstips.com/tips/category/lessons/
I really enjoy your teaching style and these first 4 lessons! I am a little further along than this, but not by much. I look forward to getting into the some of the meatier lessons!
Thanks again,
All The Best,
Jason
this what we need from guys like you. thanks alot and keep educating and sharing this way
Eric, I appreciate your approach to business and not trying to recruit right off the bat! I can’t wait for lesson #55. Keep up the great work.
I used to live in beautiful Colorado, Grand Junction to be exact.
Dan
These lessons are a valuable eye opener… I will definitely be back 4 the next lesson!
I too really like your teaching style. I’ve done the lesson here already and definitely know there are thousands of ways to earn money online. I started out myself as a webmaster hobbyist back in 2002. Since then I’ve learned a ton and have tried some of the things you talk about… like MLM and taking surveys and the Freebie Site thing too. And after wasting a lot of time for pretty little returns I’ve come to the conclusion that I’m going to stick to affiliate marketing. I hope this series heads in that direction.
Hi Eric, this is great information I ever had.
Eric, Thank you so much man you are a God sent. I been wanting someone to teach me how to do this thing the right way for a longtime cause I have tried everything. I look forward to learning more.
Hi Eric,
You make a lot of sense. I decided last week to focus on Affiliate Marketing and the Adsense adverts.
Thank you Butch
Why don’t you call yourself a guru?
(Guru = Teacher)
Don’t You Teach People? :p
Sumit. :o)
hi eric, by the way, you’re doing a really gr8 job. theres a problem though with lesson no 4. the video stops midpoint, at 16:00. kindly check it out. i really wanna watch the full thing. thumbs up again
Hello Verity,
Here is a link that should help you to be able to view the videos properly:
http://www.ericstips.com/trouble-viewing-flash-videos/
Thank you for being so honest and for NOT trying to sell, sell, sell to your students! I believe this to be the most genuine, easy to understand series I have found! It’s obvious that you have a “good heart” and I really appreciate that and the fact that you DON’T give us an overload of information that we don’t know what to do with!
Hey Eric
I have been messin around a little bit online, to make some extra cash for about 3yrs. I have a real full-time job that i truley love. But I also like making money online, on a part-time basis.I was one of those guys that started buying stuff and have alot of real good tools and info on my hard-drive. Just haven’t been able to put it all together. Keep up the great tips they are really helping me out.
Thanks
Sir I have recived all your lession and being followed.Thanks for sending the e-mail msg.
It’s very interesting to go through your article which are really helpful in making a great success in make money Online.
Thank you very much for sharing your stuff here and I’m very happy to see posts like this.
Internet wealth generation
Hi Eric,
I came across your site by accident (a good one) and have been hooked to the lessons since then. I am interested in creating my own website to begin my online business but I have a major problem. I am from the island of St. Lucia in the Caribbean and we do not use Papal nor Storming. I do not even own a Credit Card. In that regard, what advice can you offer me?
First, read this to get some inspiration:
http://www.ericstips.com/tips/ladan-lashkari/
Then figure out a way to make it work
I know that doesn’t sound helpful but that’s what it comes down to. Find someone in your country who is doing business online and find out what they do.
Ultimately it will be helpful if you work toward the goal of getting a credit card too.
Hi Eric,
The is is also a major problem for me from Nigeria too, although i have credit card and i have used it on some site like when i bought your 50 plr book,quite easy but we can use paypal from here and this make me miss good stuff i may need to buy like the new site bot software for building niche sites, i want to but cant because they only take paypal. Can somebody develope an online business for us to serve as middle man, we pay you with our credit card, once payment is confirmed, you can help pay through paypal,clickbank etc and download the products to us and charge a decent fee for it. Thanks
Your style and content are great and I know you will get your reward for all the content Ive seen so far.
Heard all the claims on the net and only now beginning to see that through my own efforts and belief that this may actually be possible.
Thanks for what youve done so far ..Happy to stick with your blog as whether or not youve actually made any money is of little importance as one thing is clear ,what youre saying makes sense
Hi Eric,
Definitely i would not buy any stuff now in other internet marketer. I will concentrate in ericstips lesson and when i am ready to run an online business, i would buy stuff from your suggestions.
I have one question:
Is it possible to earn from other people?
I wanted to help my freinds to have an online business, so i have to teach them and surely, i will not charge them or otherwise all site from domain name, webhosting and suppliers or other stuff should pay me as referral fee.
Thanks again.
Sure you could definitely make money from other people by charging them to teach them about internet marketing. But it would be best if you first become successful at it before teaching it.
Hi Erick,
I have enjoyed this lesson so well. I can hear your heart,you are one of the very few that is commited to developing people not just milking them.I have been around awhile on internet trying to figure what i can do. My heart is in online marketing probably information products, affiliate marketing and adsense. Iam going to keep following your instruction and you are even giving it free. Thank you and God bless you.
Hi Eric: Please do not take this as me being impatient. I am just wondering when we can get into the real meat and potatoes of creating a website and building a business? I have tried so many different things online and obviously none has worked because I was not given the whole strategy, as many others I am sure have fallen into the same trap. Will we be doing something constructive soon? Don’t get me wrong please. I am not impatient and I am not throwing in the towel. I am just curious.
Thank you and kind regards:
Jim Booker
No problem. This lesson series is 100 lessons long, and the website building starts around lesson #30. Your previous experience should tell you that you’ve been missing pieces from the puzzle, and that’s exactly what I’m trying to provide in these introductory lessons. Because ultimately, the money is made from smart marketing and treating your online business like a real business; not from being constructive. So I’m trying to build people up to the right business/marketing mentality that they are lacking
I started down this journey 6 months ago. I have made a bit of money. Enough to keep me hungry for more. However, I have learned what I already knew, but chose to ignore. That there is no easy way to get to the top. Thanks for putting that back into perspective for me.
Hi Eric… thanks again for these great overview of business models. I must admiit that there are quite a few business models I have never heard of. I think, I want to go with clickbank and comission junkie, writing stories and review sites. But I am also interested in making a community site…
I am looking forward to the next video!
Thank you and best of luck,
Arne
Hi Eric I’ve created 44 twitter accounts most of them in the last 3 months 20+ have 20,000 followers or more. My goal is to start as many online businesses and make as much money as I can. I’ve twiterned for a few friends to help them along. I’d like to make some money either selling some of my twitter accounts or developing them for other people. Do you have any advice.
In theory it’s not a bad idea, because there are definitely people who are willing to pay for large twitter accounts. A good place to find those buyers might be marketing forums. However I would exercise caution for two reasons…
1) it’s probably against twitter’s TOS.
2) I’d be careful about being dependent on any 3rd party site, particularly a rapidly evolving social site like twitter. They could turn your business model on its head overnight.
On the other hand, helping people develop their twitter accounts could certainly be a legitmate marketing service. If you do go that route, I would suggest coupling it with other marketing services so that you are not 100% dependent on twitter.
This lesson seems to be very useful, specially for the beginners like me.I have few questions:
1.Is it mendetory to have one’s own website before starting an online business?
2.What are the main requirements for “INFO PRODUCTS”type business.How to start it.
3. How much money is needed for this type of business?
4. If you can guide me for “Affiliate Marketing” and some more details about “Service Site”
5. I am a psychologist & want to work as freelance councelor, is it possible? If yes, will it be well paying too?
1) you can have an online business without a website, but a website is essential for the particular business model that I teach. This will be explained in depth later in the lessons, and I’ll show how to build/get a website.
2) See lesson #3 and lesson #8
3) There is no specific requirement, but I would recommend having at least $200 on hand.
4) I will provide some affiliate marketing tips.
5) Yes it’s possible. In terms of well-paying… I have no way of knowing. But you will make more money if you treat it like a business and not a job. See lesson #6
Hello Eric,
I loved this lesson!! Thank you so much for your integrity, honesty and kindness…so so much appreciated.
Today I feel less stressed out after implementing your suggestion of unsubscribing from all the email lists. In the last few weeks I felt very much like chasing my tail without getting anywhere, totally overwheled, so thank you for shading some light and get me on track with very wise suggestions.
Regarding this lesson I would like to ask if you could please let me know where to find places on the internet for genuine Work from home JOBS; although I am commited to have my own online biz I won’t mind to start making some money by doing some work from home jobs…the point is that there are so many BS and scams out there, even if I Google I still don’t know if an offer is genuine or not.
I am so exited about this site that I am very tempted to watch 2-3 lessons a day. Is this ok, or it would be better to wait and go through one lesson a day?
Thank you for what you are doing and Many Blessings,
Max
It’s fine to do more than one per day, as long as you’re not skipping lessons or action steps. Otherwise you could end up with an education with “missing pieces”.
Hello,
Downloaded up to lesson 23 without even a glance. Now I can’t stop reading it. And to think I almost bought a course for almost $2,000.00 that would set up everything for me. You make that possible, the difference is you educate. Thanks
Dear Eric, thanks for all the great clear info……it will take 3 months if you send one lesson a day 120 lessons. Will you be able to send more per day so I can start create a business faster? I bought your trading package can I start selling it before you sending me all 120 lessons? I am so thirsty to learn how to succeed on line thanks Barbara
You can get the current lessons here:
http://www.ericstips.com/tips/category/lessons/
Yes you can start selling it. I’m going to send out a special tutorial for customers of that package
Eric Thanks for the info!
Thanks for the overview. Many people are looking everyday.I am a sales oriented person that loves to teach others how to do things honestly.Thanks for your help so far.
Pierre